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Hello there

Hi Randi!!!

Kimmie hello and how are you??

hi girls:)

Hi, Elisa! Randi, I am fine now that I finally made it!

Honey Hi there and welcome to the Sunday night chat

ooops lets try this again.....

look at all that hair!

As you can gusee we are going to talk about wigs tonight.........the ground rules are the same as the past week...let's relax and have a good time

Hi Randi

whos here girls?

hi rosie, randi...;)

Hopefully we will discuss styling and how to take care of the damned things!

hi kimmie: Hi, everybody....just dropping in for a few.

i love your hair color dear:)

oooops that should be guess...but Hair is the topic here

Kimmie, your hair looks great, sure looks like you know what you are doing?

It was done for me, thank you. I am inept!

it does look pretty rosie..i agree!

oops forgot to add name etc back in when came over from kaffe haus

Hi, ladies! It's Amie... your TG-friendly GG! (grin)

i love the bangs Kimmie!

Thank you ladies blush

Hi Rosie....Kimmie as far as the care of the pieces is concerned I guess we can start out with the styling end of things......

hi vickie and Amie:)

Is there anyone in Florida here... or just me?

Rose, roy says hello...he will talk to you later...

Kimmie I agree with everyone you look great!!

what words of wisdom do you have randi?

Are there any other good TG chat rooms around here?

yes, kimmie...you look great...

oh there you go Amie!

Thanks Randy! Seriously how do you style it after its been in a plastic bag in the closet?

well what types of combs do you use to comb the hair out after wearing??

Hi Amie..

OK Vickie

guess I'll duck out now. bye

Hi All!

Kimmie, I'm originally from Fort Lauderdale! We used to go to Daytona all the time... nice beach! Do you live full-time?

doesnt she Vickie:)?...your hair is cute too hon:)

Combs? I learn something new everyday! Usually just a brush.

Elisa..i do what she said she did....have someone style it for me...then I hold on to it for months...trying not to let it get messed. I can rearrange a little bit using a pick etc.

really combs???

lots Amie, lets go to the Kaffe Haus

There's someone in here with no name... Don't be shy! Introduce yourself!

No Amie, I wish! Just a simple closet crossdresser....

well for one...what I would reccoment is using a wire wig comb or a strong plastic bristle brush to gently comb it out after it has been stoered.....gently spray with ahir spray or a wig spray that is not silicone based

cute vickie:) and i Love that lipstick shade hon!

Rosie, still here? I just came from the Kaffe Haus!

oh great randi! spray before styling?

I meant brush when I said comb..the two terms can be interchangeable....

Elisa...I was on stage for a time....like dark or bright lips.

well let's go back there, unless you'd like to stay here and learn a little about wig and hair care??

Hi all - just taking notes

Here's some helpful advice... I style my TG friends' wigs all the time, and I find it advantageous to use your fingers to shape and construct it first! Fingers are better than any brush or comb, and they're a lot less harsh on the wig!

i love matte lipstick..ooop...thats right..this is hair talk:)

yes there is a reason...this will loosen up the fibers...when one brushes before the spray is applied....the fibers are loose...this makes the hair much more recetive to spray and further styling

Okay, Rosie... Meet you over there in a few...

vera..love the hair girl!

Elisa, I guess that means we both need to behave. huh? *smile*r

Hi All (Again). Randi - Are silicon based sprays labeled as such? How can you tell? & Why not use them?

Hi girls

Hi, Karen.

I'll try Vickie *gigle* hi Karen:)

Hi Vera....one thing that I have learned is that a commecially avaiable spray like Suave or something along those lines will work better than some of those avaiable theoru the wig shops..they do not weigh down as much

oh drat...phone call!!!! be back later girls!

Hi, Karen! Your picture looks great... from what I can tell. It's a bit fuzzy on my screen - is that normal?

Just kind of "plopped" it there - not very neatly either

Did you girls get my "finger-styling" advice?

I'm a bit fuzzy & certainly not normal!

Karen? Still there?

Oh! Bad choice of words on my part, I guess! (grin)

Hi girls :)

Karen!!! Hello there sis... yes there are several types that are silicon based.....the most widley distributed one has a blue label on it silicon is mentioned as the third ingedient

What about washing?

Karen, don't worry... I'm not normal either - in fact, my is that I'm the only GG here! :-)

Hi y'all

Hi, Jessi!

Jessi, what state are you in?

Hi Amie, Vicki, Randi etc! Randi - how about conditioners - aren't they mostly silicon?

Im in Oregon Amie.

There is a spray made by Alan Thomas and it is avaiable through the Wig Outlet from Pittsburgh Pa.....address is PO Box 12950 Pittsburgh, Pa. 15241

What are you talking about

Is the spray to hold it in place or to make move more naturally? Are there things that will take the stiffness out?

I don't have to worry about wigs my hair is long enough

I mean wigs are great just after you buy them - but after one washing they get kind of still.

sorry - didn't mean to be late - had a phone call just before 8 and had to eat burned chicken - please accept my lateness and interrruption

Karen some are and some aren't....the non-silicon ones are the ones thaat will work...Kimmie....there are many different shampoos.....From eva Gabors stuff on down....but one can use even dishwashing detergent which leaves the hair soft

Hi Amie

Hi Heather! Vera, what are you using to wash them?

stiff not still - it is very early Monday morning here

Where are you Vera Emm

Randi, I am going to surf a bit...maybe I will talk to you later on tonight. hr Hi, Heather.

HI HEATHER!!!!!Vera...the extra hold formulas of regular hair will work very well.....

Randi I am going to buy a new wig, is there anything in particular to look for?

I have a wig but have never washed it

Heather, hon! How are you tonight?

Just noraml shampoo - I guess I will try the detergent

Amie are you still here

ok Vickie **HUGGGGSSS******

Well I guess i did that wroong...That should have been

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like this...but you get the message didnt you heather?did

Amie how are you hon

Amie you are like a sister to me

Jenn... Yes, I'm still here (I think!)...

Jennifer, Germany - Hi Heather

Has anybody been in The Kaffe Haus lately

Ok I made it 28 Min late but I made it and no idea what we are talking about...

OK, its washed now to get the original style back????

enn... Why am I like a sister to you? Just curious! :-)

Vera I'm from Niagara Falls

I've had very good luck with aregular old dishwashing liquid, like palmolive. Rinsing thourouly is yhe key no matter what you use.

Heather! That's one tardy for you! (grin)

You are because you are easy to talk to and very kind. Just like a sister is

...Just came from the Kaffe Haus. Nothing going on there.

Jessi several things: for one make sure that the style and color are those that flatter not take away form your look...secondly the fibres of the hair are very important...there are those made with Kannekelon..I hope I have that right....it is the most widely distributed artificial fibre for hair....check to see if the store you are buying it from will also restyle at a later date and if they have good care products...Heather...anything that I missed here???

Thanks for the compliment, Jenn! You're so sweet, girl!

Heather... Still with us?

Are there any Floridians here?

Thanks Randi :). I think my natural color really works well for me. Style is somthing else tho :\

I've used shampoos and gentle dish soap to wash wigs with - the trick is to be very gentle - wash them in a bkcet of water or a sink or something you can fully immerse them in ...

I hang them upside down to dry. Seems to add fullness. (For those of us into BIG hair!)

I am probably going to get a wig very soon. A blonde one I probably look good as a blonde

Randi please over look my recreance and tardyness...I take my place in the rows....

Kimmie...what you need then to let it dry...since most sytles are 'burned' into the wig...it is a matter of gently brushing it out...it will return to it's original style after the brushing is done

Well, I've already put in my two cents about wigs... I'm going to surf a bit! Be back in a few...

Thank you Amie. You are also very sweet

Stay away from Modacrylic hair - its a cheap synthetic and doesn't hiold up very well - I had my best luck with Elura fiber wigs ... Elura is very hair-like and holds up well.

Well I'm going bye every one

Karen, a very good point - turn them inside out and then hang dry them. Don't use a blow dryer and do NOT brush them when wet.

HeatherB No problem honey....!!! Jessi and Jennifer...one should keep in mind that the color has to compliment...and not to bring attention of the wrong type.....let me give an example ....this is one that Loev to wear around the apartment or to parties...but does not work for work so to speak

or it could have been this which works with the skin tone

Gotta scoot! Catch y'all later.

ooops let's try this again

Bye Karen :)

Ok Karen talk to you soon!!!!!

Thanks for the tips ladies! Gotta run.

as you can see the keys are the styles and whether or not the color compiments

Later Kimmie!!!!!!

HUGGGGSSS!!!!!

Jessi...there are some good shops in Portland for Hairpieces if I am correct

here I buy my newer ones at Merle Norman

Someone told me about a good wig store here in Portland, so Ill have a chance to try some on, I have a long soft wave style now, I want to try a shorter style I think.

hmmmm

The name of the place is Wells.

Jessi like this one???

I cant see the link Randi

depending on our features and build, most of us do well with a style that hides the neck - the shorter styles don't generally work - - chin length is a minimum, and shoulder length nearly always is more flattering ...

oops let's try this again

darn....let's try this one

darn it...they were uploaded earlier let's do this

oooo I like that one!

ah there we go like that one Jessi???

Yes Ill take it! :)

I have one similar...but combed out a little further

Jessi I think I have looked at their page Randi

their pictures are what I use for reference

Im kinda looking forward to trying on instead of just ordering this time tho

what colors do you favor hon???

Im really still trying to figure out my colors Randi. I have lite brown hair,hazel eyes,med to light skin.

what I did was buy 80% of mine when I was in Seattle bout them on a cash and carry basis....but they worked very well

Thanks Randi and Heather - I have picked up some good pointers about washing and drying - in between being bumped three times. Just came back to say bye and thanks!! Bye all!

Also going to check out that Wig URL - One more bye - Bye!

jessi I was lucky whatever I tried with the exception of Blonde...they have worked..

Blonde is probably not for me ;). But I think everyone has to buy a blonde wig :)

There is nothing like going into a shop and finding a colour that works for you ... I wore blonde for years, went to my natural colour when I transitioned, but it always looked fakey and too dark for me - then I tried on a light reddish colour and realized it was perfect!

later Vera!!!!!**HUGGGGSSSSSS****

Bye Bye Vera :). Have a good day.

bye Vera thanks for popping in.

That color really works for you Heather.

and it looks great as always Heather!!!!

sorry about the massive display earlier...but it was for illustraive purposes

not to brag

No problem Randi

I think the best bet is to find a supportive shop that has a good selection. If you are shy about shopping near home, go to another town further away, but all wig shops have dealt with male customers before - there are way too many of us to dismiss. Just give them a call first to find out if there is a best time to be able to go in and try styles out to find a style and colour that works for you.

And Heather is right.....

I am shy about shopping Heather. I got the name of a shop from someone here in Portland that I met on AOL.

Once yopu find the colour that suits you, be sure you get the tag when you buy the wig so you know the name and brand and color number - different brands use different color codes, but if its a major brand, a shop can always match a color for you if they know the brand and color code.

that is thte way to do it...here the shop we frequent had its ice broken so to speak by my fiance....now there are many of us who go to the Merle Norman's here and there are no problems

We are always shy about shopping, but once you realize you're not the first guy to buy a pretty wig, when you consider how much it costs and that you have the right to be sure its what you want, well, its just being a good consumer.

exactly...Dolly Parton/Revlon/Paula Young...all use different codes for the same type of piece

yes and there are many shops that like us there because we are good consumers

I wish I could get away with a short style, I have nice hair of my own ;)

Oh! I meant to be here a while earlier knowing the topic is wig/hair issues--

Hi Jenny

and for the most partt...we know what we are doing

there are hairpieces you can blend in with your own hair - if the front of your hair is good, you can wear a fall to add fullness and length in the back ... you just brush some of your own hair back over the top of it and spray to keep your hair blended over it, or wear a scarf or headband to hide the transition between the fall and your hair.

Jenny Welcome hon!!!!!! what would you like to know??????

My problems with wigs (and I like the longer straight w/soft curls) is to keep them securely in place on my head when dancing (some girls I know actually use poly grip--others have military haircuts underneath and the short spindles of hair anchor wigs in place better...

Jessi--Portland ME or OR? If OR i know a real good TG+friendly wig shop---!

Hi everyone...

By t he by Jenny..we will be in the area in about 2 months

hello everyone....

In Oregon Jenny, We chatted a bit last month :)

sorry - tummy is acting up - got to run quick .. be back soon -0 sorry ... !!!

ok..here are a couple of suggestions: you can use four bobbie pins secured at the ear level [this would also mean using some type band on the head] or one can use a headbad...yes they are back in fashion.....there is a gripper being sold through Paula Young goes for $29

Ok Heatheeer!!!!!

Jenny the device in question is called a comfy grip

Try Mrs. C's Wig Shop in the NE side of Portland about a mile N of the Lloyd Center--on the corner of about 7th and NE Fremont. Excellent selection, lots of ebony wigs--brown to black/Afros/dreadlocks, etc. since it's in a Afro-American neighborhood, The people are real nice and even the long wigs tend never to be over $45--average price around $26.00 Real good quality stuff and no Halloween garbage. Racks of inexpensive jewelry too and wig care products. There's another one on Hawthorne around SE 28th, but they're a bit spendy maybe a bit better selection even tho' TG+friendly too

Mr. C's has a lot of blonde/lighter colors too I might add...

it is in their latest catalog

Jennifer.....I will have to check them out

There used to be a roll-on wig grip product that came out in little two-ounce bottles for around five dollars, but apparently last summer, the product was recalled by the US Gov't--reason unknown.

thanks....they have longer styles like the one I have in this pic hon???

Sorry all I just got dissed for a minute, the dreaded GPF

I hope so!!

Thanks for the info Jenny :). I got refered to a shop called Wells, but I will check out Mrs C's too

that is ok Jessi!!

Windows strikes again

I can only scroll back messages back to 8:40 or so--any big questions I missed? I know mail ordering wigs is usually a pretty good deal unlike the fear of ordering specialty-sized items that might not fit and you wind up sending them back, but any good wig shop I'm sure caters to a TG+person from time to time, and I'm not shy to try them on--I'd like to be able to find the ones that don't have the "line" over the forehead, but can be feathered back to look like real hair brushed back at the hairline over the forehead.

**HUGGGSS***

I've never tried Wells--I've heard of it, though. E-mail me w/any info I ought to know about if you visit there!!!

Sure Jenny, be glad too.

Jessi--another good place to go is the Embers at NW Couch and Broadway and just ask all the TG+folks in there (most any night) styling tips and the good local places to go buy stuff, or call Darcelle XV's club down on Third.

Jennifer..one of the Mail Order places that I am getting catalogs form is the Wig Outlet PO Box 12950 Pittsburgh, Pa 15241..their catalogs are nice and prices are reasonable

hi ya Jenny I hear you;re still harrashing the cowboy!

I have heard of Embers Jenny, but I havent been there yet.

Randi--I've tried the hairpins and even the headbands--but anything sqeezing on my head or pulling my hair can give me little spot headaches after wearing them for more than a few hours. Does that ever happen to you? The hairpin idea is a good one, though, and it works good for me! The Poly Grip makes a mess!

Jenny we will check those places out hon.....by the by how do you keep your long pices in such great shape????

Franco, yeah, those characters on their little broomstick ponies moved from the redneck bar to the sports bar this afternoon and gamled all their money away on the Big Game.

yes I have had the headcahes from the tightening grip of the band...right now I go without the pins because of the eyeglasses

besides at work I wearing a headband most of the time

When we chatted before Christmas Jenny I was on my back to Eastern Oregon and planned to stop in at your shop on my way, but the weather didnt cooperate with me.

...and I heard you tried to sign my guestbook on my HP but the link server was down--at least they have an e-mail forwarding service while they update their equipment, so thanks Franco!

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To keep my wigs in shape I use any good quality shampoo, but a special wig conditioner for the non-human hair ones, and let them dry out completely (I lay them on a towel) before using a wig brush/comb to get the tangles out. Knapped headrests on cars can really rat the back inside hairs of a long wig, so pull the hairs forward before you drive anywhere!

looking forward to having a postion where I do not have to wear bands

oh THAT'S RIGHT jessi--Rachael Alyce was here co-logged in with me and she was talking about her dress shop. She is yet to go on-line, but she still comes up here at least once a week to chat.

that is what I did when driving yesterday

I was squeezed through the gorge both times in between it being closed.

But I will make it back this spring I hope.

where is her shop hon????

I'll probably wind up shaving my real hair down to about 1/2 inch in length, as hair that length is stiff and spindly enough to hold wigs securely in place and keep your head cool in summer. I usually braid and ponytail the longer ones I have in warmer weather.

her shop is in LaGrande downtown (a formal wear shop--but carrying corsets, undergarments, etc. lately, and casual unique fashions--it's called Formally Yours at Adams and Elm, downtown La Grande, Oregon

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Two Thursdays ago, I barely got into Portland when the ice hit Cascade Locks to Troutdale--it was just beginning...whew!

its been a long winter Jenny.

here one of my local sisters takes care of my hairpieces...she is a very, very cool person

Jessi--I guess you'll just

have

to get into the Embers some night and ask a lot of questions! The patrons there really were a resource and then of course along came the Internet, and the risk of blowing up my brain from being over-educated! grin

but will have to find someone in Portland who can do so

A lot the wig shops will give you a style for five to eight dollars around these parts...

by the by Jenny what are prices for hairpieces like in Lagrande???

lol Jenny, I will make it there sometime.

WOWOWOWOW!!!!!

What I've found really interesting about the non-human hair wigs, is that I can't detect that they ever absorb cigarette smoke smell from all the smokey clubs I go to, but my daughter can run over to her grandma's house for just five minutes, and I can tell she's been there because I can smell the smoke in her hair.

nice prices hon!!! Jenny T. (NE Oregon) there are no wig stores in LaGrande. (population: 12,000)

ah that is because those are non-organic ingredients in those wigs and they cannot by design absorb anything like smoke

I like this wig too--brown shag and feathered back slightly to keep it out of my face w/o bobbipins when I lean forward, but for some reason, it makes my scalp itchy clean or dirty...?

That is a nice style Jenny.

that has been my experience as well

I figured that about the smokey smell re: absorption

Jenny I like that one as well...it seem that blonde suits you a little better

When I bought my wigs at the Hawthorne store, they would give out little booklets on care--they'd say really watch out opening oven doors!

Oh my , that could be dangerous

but if it were a human Hair wig it would probably absorb as well

I actually like the blonde a bit better too. My real hair is blonde, so I don't have to darken light sideburns or shave my real sideburns way up high

the darker wigs on a sunny day certainly can cook yr head!

yes that is a biggie as in possible melting on the door or the fibres melting together

Well ladies, I have to run, thanks for all the info. Hope I see you both soon. Byeeeeee :)

hmmmm much like with me I loved this one when I had it ...but it was impractical because of the fibre

when I first started doing FI a couple years ago, the blonde wig would pad the icebreaker dumb blonde jokes for a while to loosen up the interaction with the crowds B4 the drag shows...

ok Jessi!!!**HUGGGSS***

hmmmmm

gads--the dumb blonde jokes internet site had at last count 480 dumb blonde jokes--well time to move on anyway from jokes that are passe anyway, but I did Kate Bush FI, and of course she has the greatest longest stringy hair of any singer I know. Too bad she hasn't had any recent hit songs to cover these days, so Kate Bush is out of the act.

gotten very quiet tonight

hey! I can do Annie Haslam!

Well! We did good Randi! I know Jessi will have a serious shopping endeavor tomorrow! (*g*)

just wondering...do you any pics from that Jenny????

yes she will!!!!Iy you want a wilder version of her look check out the cover of the Renaissance album Time Line

I'm going to have to run and use the 'puter to submit airplay charts from the radio station to the trade publications before heading off to bed this evening--be sure and keep me informed of more details on your trip to Portland when it gets closer to crunch time as I know you will...!

Ya shoulda been a red head Jenny!

the cd is available now

I wish I had pictures of my short-lived FI days (no cameras allowed in the club)

I sure will Jenny!!! **HUGGGSS***

understood!!

I thought about the red-head bit--but my TG+Sister here in town is the famous redhead already!

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I'll have to check the new CD out!

I mean after all the whole Nordic goddess bit!!

**HUGGGSS*** Jenny!!!

BYE ALL!!

font color="FF0000" take care Franco and Randi and whoever else might be still in here...

Jenny go to my HP and bookmark the 2 renaissance sites

take care Franco and Randi and whoever else might be still in here... double brackets on this site--I forgot

poof

come to think of it I stillll have some pics of her somewhere here

ok Jenny...anyone else on board????

hope all survived the game

hello all

Tonights's discussion was about wigs

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hi?

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hello there...

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Hi Randi, This is Sandy (Changed my name from Randi to Sandy, bowing to your aready established Randi (cp)name.

Randi, I has a question regarding wigs. I've NEVER worned one. What consists of a wig ?? Just hair, some kinda thing that fits over me head or what ?? Randi hello??

ok as in what types of fibers....styles etc??

Sandy..what part of the world are you in????

Sandy????

Sandy????

hello???

Hi Randi, I'm in Maryland.

hello?

ok what would you like to know??

I suspect the discussion tonight is wigs ?? I would like talk about that if you're not talked out already. SuperBowl and all concerded ..

Sandy???

ok I we have a few minutes herew

have you worn wigs hon??

Can you provide a brief into into wigs ??

are you considering difffferent styles

there are many things.....fibrer, manufacturers, styles colors...those sorts of things...what were you considering

just wondering

Sandy???

Sandy I realize that our connectionas are slow..and I was about to close down the room due to the slow reaction time.....how about we do this through email Hon??

mine is randi@<redacted>.com.....please write hon and I will repsond

Hope to see you next week in the meantime

POOOFERSSSS!!!!!